are we going to use the program from fallingwater? i might suggest that each house include a dangerous supplement as the seed for its narrative growth. we can start a program thread independent of the houses and then each job captain can provide the dangerous supplement to initiate the development sequence.
here is a pass at the ‘program’, hacked from the house -27 – 7 year house and from what i can remember at fallingwater – we were not allowed to peep all rooms.
i don’t know about sq.footages; if we are using the same five (5) houses, should the footage be the same for all? i wouldn’t think so. maybe the total square footage could be the same for all? what is the average size of a home in the u.s.? i will look it up later.
living
loggia/entry
spouse bedroom -> shared terrace
bath
spouse bedroom -> shared terrace
bath
guest bedroom -> private terrace
bath
kitchen
dining
study/library (accessed from spouse bedroom)
guest study
public terrace/porch
plunge
of course, there was a fireplace.
you did that whilst i was doing mine!
anyway, here is what i had.
2300 sf house
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master bedroom – 300 sf
2 bedroom – 175 sf ea.
master bath – 100 sf
shared bath – 50 sf
half bath – 25 sf
kitchen – 250 sf
office – 150 sf
lounge – 575 sf
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indoor spaces: 1800 nsf
+ 500 sf for stairs, mechanical, and circulation spaces.
patio – 500 sf
garden – 800 sf
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outdoor spaces: 1300 gsf
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hmm, did you post something titled ‘program template for 5 houses’? it is gone now?
2250 sf house
————-master bedroom – 200 sf
2 bedroom – 175 sf ea.
master bath – 75 sf
shared bath – 50 sf
half bath – 25 sf
kitchen – 250 sf
office – 150 sf
guest office – 150 sf
lounge – 600 sf
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indoor spaces: 1750 nsf
+ 500 sf for stairs, mechanical, and circulation spaces.patio – 500 sf
private patio – 200 sf
garden – 800 sf
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outdoor spaces: 1500 gsf
dining?
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i took it down when i saw that you had posted something in the meanwhile and just copied that material into here.
looks like the main differences are: you have separate spouse bedrooms?, 1 extra bedroom instead of 2, a dining room, and a guest study.
should i amend my tabular list with those items? i think maybe i should just leave the indoor spaces as net square footages and each house can vary as to its efficiency and introduction of other spaces. the list of spaces and size above will serve as the core program that each house must accommodate.
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should i amend my tabular list with those items?
i made some changes to your list, outlined in bold in my previous comment.
i guess the separate conjugal bedrooms don’t need to be programmed; either way there are 3 bedrooms, so the tenants can use them as they wish. maybe we can get rid of the term ‘master bedroom’. this way, the house would accommodate a classic married w/ 2.5 children if someone like you or grey moves in, whilst also being more suited for a more progressive program, for someone like diego rivera, rudolf schindler, or myself.
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single bedroom – 200 sf
bath – 50 sf
paired bedrooms – 175 sf ea.
shared bath – 75 sf
half bath – 25 sf
kitchen – 250 sf
dining – 200 sf
office – 150 sf
guest office – 150 sf
lounge – 500 sf
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indoor spaces: 1950 nsf
+ X sf tbd per house for stairs, mechanical, circulation, and gary busey spaces.
features: fireplace, loggia.
terrace – 500 sf
private patio (for paired bedrooms) – 200 sf
private patio (for bedroom) – 100 sf
garden – 800 sf
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outdoor spaces: 1500 gsf
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hmm, are fireplaces a component of deep ecology? maybe ‘fireplace’ could just be ‘a feature’ since i think that was flw’s primary goal w/ them? i am not sure, though, i don’t know if he ever wrote anything.
maybe the ‘paired bedrooms’ can be separated in some events? i don’t want to labor the issue; just tell me what to draw.
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i think wright wrote that the hearth is the ‘heart’ of the home. what a tool.
why dont you go ahead and start a page to kick off hider-in-the-house with the final materials from the original and maybe we can start by clearing the air about what our intentions were with our work.
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re: house two
single bedroom – 200 sf
bath – 50 sf
paired bedrooms – 175 sf ea.
shared bath – 75 sf
half bath – 25 sf
kitchen – 250 sf
dining – 200 sf
office – 150 sf
guest office – 150 sf
lounge – 500 sf
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indoor spaces: 1950 nsf
+ X sf tbd per house for stairs, mechanical, circulation, spaces.
house one features: fireplace, loggia
house two features: telescreen, alcove.
house three features: TBD
house four features: TBD
house five features: TBD
terrace – 500 sf
private patio (for paired bedrooms) – 200 sf
private patio (for bedroom) – 100 sf
garden – 800 sf
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outdoor spaces: 1500 gsf
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are we allowed to change this for each house? i know it is the program for ‘the 5 houses’, so the answer is ‘no’, but i don’t see how more than 1 br, offices, shared/half baths, make sense for winston’s place.
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