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13h49m15 / 06.Feb.2008
worker: ashley

mimi zeiger apparently reads this site;
have you sketched up some plans for that ‘nice’ paper?


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i thought zeigerz thing was only in january, i would think we have written enough asshole stuff on the page that we could submit that, or synthesize some of the more cultural smd observations


-john
[ 13h49m58 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

hmm, i told her that we could not work on it until after january, and she said that was fine. i don’t know if she is still interested.

i have been thinking (barely) of the ‘nice’ angle being about home depot or someplace, where you pay extra for something shoddy that is supposed to appear nice, when you would be better off with something that is sturdy but looks cheap (b/c it is) - ie, a plastic doorknob that is ‘fake’ brass instead a ‘real’ aluminum knob

if you want to see if we have already written something, like one of your features, we can just email that to her


-ashley
[ 13h51m13 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

perhaps we can dig into that idea in a discussion forum like “wtf is archtiecture” rather than feeling like we had to craft a treatise…


-john
[ 13h51m37 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

‘archtiecture’


-ashley
[ 13h52m15 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

that seems easier than writing a ‘paper’, and it contains our signature m.o.,
so i guess we should do that?


-ashley
[ 13h52m36 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

ok, you can start!


-john
[ 13h52m55 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

i already did!
i mentioned that home depot shit; it is in your hands now!
i guess we can just post the last few emails on the list as the ‘discussion forum like “wtf is architecture”‘


-ashley
[ 13h53m32 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

you can go ahead and post your email and i will respond to it, then you will respond to that, and then gray will say something, and then we will tear him up. then mimi will give us some cash


-john
[ 13h55m13 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

i reckon, i regards to your rant about doorknobs, there have probably been a lot of discussions about how ‘manufactured need’ has drawn the perceived value of things to the surface. i dont think people buy the things because they need them to work well, they just need them.


-john
[ 14h16m09 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

has someone already voiced all my trite observations? i never read it. what do you mean by ‘need’? do people need to buy polystyrene coving or plastic ‘tin’ ceiling tiles?

i guess no one has ‘needed’ crown molding for the past 2000 years, so the molding didn’t need to look like anything but what it was; now when you go to loews you can get the shit made from foam instead of wood which used to be the cheap knock off of stone. if you absolutely need to have that shape on your house, then it doesn’t matter from what substance it is made, but i question if it would be more efficient to put your cash into fewer but more substantial features, if you are working w/ limited resources.
what’s the point they are making by stapling it to the wall? probably the same point being made by sellouts who eat tofurkey at bullshit thanksgiving.


-ashley
[ 14h34m20 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

are you saying that given the same pot of money you should buy 1 antique chair rather than a living room suite from rooms to go? wtf is your furry coterie supposed to sit for book club?

in terms of essentials, like furniture, which is where i think the most significant tumble in quality for the proles has occurred in the last 35 years, i hope people don’t necessarily want some flat-packed particle board hutch that you put together with a hex key, it is more that because they have a drive to purchase all of the things they see a need for at once, they have to aim low like that. is it because there are more people now and each of them needs an entertainment center asap, or because people are buffoons? there are certainly fine products available that are made out of hardwoods, you could only have 1 of them total. i would rather just accrue the suite of hardwood pieces over a period of my life, infilling the gaps that i see with homemade approximations. or maybe i just realize that i dont actually need a credenza for another 25 years.

“its not fancy but i made it myself and it means a lot more to me than a table that i bought at target whilst chained to my significant other”

i assume people in the 40s bought stuff in spurts rather than spates. i assume the spate purchase is the reason there is all that shitty stuff. you can spot the people walking around in target or ikea who are getting ready to decorate an whole house or apartment at once. or maybe there was all that shitty stuff made so people decided to go all in on it. i don’t guess there is real ‘demand’ anymore. i can’t imagine that someone has an innate demand in their soul for a ceramic rooster or sliced peanut butter. although once they are in your head, im sure they are damned hard to resist.

the work.group


-john
[ 15h57m26 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

i dont think people need things. since natural selection no longer exists in the human world those things have become surrogates for cleverness and hardbodies. when we no longer have to fight for our lives and ugly morons can procreate, how else are you going to express your relevance than by driving a car with 4 teevees in it.


-john
[ 16h12m55 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

there’s a difference between “expressing your relevance” and “asserting your dominion”. four television sets in your assault vehicle is not only a middle finger to natural selection, but also to you, me, and every other sub-compact driver (all apologies to sauce and his bike)who’s travel choices are compromised at the expense of their domination.

and, did you really need to call me an “ugly moron”? dang.


-gray
[ 17h30m44 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

i guess by relevance i meant capacity for worthwhile coitus, which is the only purpose for having dominion in the first place.


-john
[ 17h37m16 | 06.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

do y’all think the onus, for the foil of this discussion, lies on the idiocy and laziness of the creators of the shit our world is filled with or the people who accept it and indulge in it? i mean, should we be picking apart the actual styrene crown moulding like ashley was doing or the asshats who just must have them, as john was doing?


-john
[ 15h33m31 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

ask me again on monday


-ashley
[ 15h34m53 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

by that time gray will have figured it all out already!


-john
[ 15h39m37 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

that ain’t my chief concern right now!


-ashley
[ 15h41m50 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

[quote comment="11482"]that ain’t my chief concern right now![/quote]

such as, where do you find those fancy banker’s pins you love?


-ashley
[ 22h51m38 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

sam flax?


-john
[ 23h01m41 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

i don’t know if we have that here? there is a pearl and utrecht. i guess i can try those; the employees there are more attractive anyway.


-ashley
[ 23h05m33 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

bon chance!

the work.group


-john
[ 23h08m16 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

hmm, that zip code isnt too far from you, near levittown?


-john
[ 23h11m12 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

jx, you have 1/2 a pound, and you want me to bike to the factory?


-ashley
[ 23h16m53 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

take saul’s hatchback! i guess i can mail you an envelope of them?


-john
[ 23h18m44 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

you don’t think they’d have that shit at officemax?
i have to ride to the area of utrecht anyway to peep out classification folders.


-ashley
[ 23h20m51 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

whatever. stop corrupting the dialogue!!


-john
[ 23h22m52 | 07.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

any of you boys want to have a dialogue?


-john
[ 11h30m56 | 18.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

allow me a few minutes to revisit this scintillating discussion and refresh my memory.


-ashley
[ 14h24m22 | 18.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

how many fucking minutes do you need?


-john
[ 17h58m08 | 27.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

untie your dick! i’ve been watching films for house one, as directed.


-ashley
[ 18h11m18 | 27.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

ha!


-john
[ 18h13m20 | 27.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

the iris! turn the blue one!!


-ashley
[ 18h18m14 | 27.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

wtf, you had to watch that again?? you dont have it memorized?

the directress is here! shes there!


-john
[ 18h35m00 | 27.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

squawk! squawk! squawk!


-ashley
[ 18h41m46 | 27.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

mata hari is about to file her report!

i didnt get that joke until i saw it on the big screen and noticed the curly headed girl slipping out the door after mrs. tanner. i thought olga was just nuts.


-john
[ 18h47m17 | 27.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

say that reminds me…


-ashley
[ 18h49m38 | 27.Feb.2008 ] [ link ]

is zeiger still waiting on this joint? maybe it can be our paper about the master.


-john
[ 09h27m23 | 06.Oct.2008 ] [ link ]

she’s probably moved on during the last 8 months. let’s see if she responds to your comment.


-ashley
[ 10h24m12 | 06.Oct.2008 ] [ link ]

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