reading these texts again, maybe i can be more articulate in my questions about what exactly we are submitting to ‘pamphlet’. should we include only the body of work of ex_nihilo, effectively repackaging it, or should we discuss ex_nihilo as well; for example, instead of just placing ‘missive 02′ without commentary, should the submission instead be about how ex_nihilo developed, with commentary such as, “‘missive 02′ is a plot device to demonstrate that those who quote octavio paz are hacks”. the latter would be (more) work, clearly. has this question been answered?
the success of my plan for a body of text with images embedded seems improbable considering that all of the text equals 4 pages, even as double spaced half columns.
i guess i will leave it to your sequence of every image you can get from the disc.
it does say a maximum of 16 pages. i would still like to see whatever you have done. the rest of your time can be spent producing new work to flesh out the submission. also, it says the abstract is a 250 word piece on a separate page. should we actually try to write something intelligible for that (see: wrk.grp features)?
pdf: what do you think? i think that ex_nihlo can be considered a package of specimens that a third party uncovered, while pamphlet is an expose by one of the parties, presumably john trefry of the ‘atlanta toastmaster’. so the pamphlet can just have the ex_nihilo material while the abstract has text about the material. i don’t know which is to be more, in your words, ’scientific’. i don’t shit about this project.
is the last page supposed to be blank?
hmmm…. i dont think any of our texts, including the two we have just composed, effectively describe what exactly we are doing. i think this will be the role of the abstract. i think the abstract should explain the process (as spoon-fed as that may seem) and the significance of our work in clear and antisceptic prose.
i think that the body of the project should be introspective and hermetic. i dont think it should refer to itself as a fictional scenario.
the 5th page is blank; i didn’t think it made a difference.
i meant to ask if the two ‘pamphlet’ texts have any value for the abstract. i thought the abstract would be about collaboration. your text, to me, concerned the process, while mine was intended to describe the worth of collaboration. perhaps mine is too involved with the narrative; i figured that excerpts from a fictional manifesto would make connections between what we were doing and what ‘they’, except we were sitting at msme whilst they were plowing up asphalt with taxis.
to your 2nd point, i am in agreement, i think it should be a continuation of the life and of the ‘john trefry’ character (i wish ‘we’ had thought up a better name for the character; i presume that the ‘ashley moore’ character has been killed by now).
ashley moore wrote:
“instead of just placing ‘missive 02′ without commentary, should the submission instead be about how ex_nihilo developed, with commentary such as, “‘missive 02′ is a plot device to demonstrate that those who quote octavio paz are hacks”.”
kron von konig wrote:
“i dont think it should refer to itself as a fictional scenario.
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i think commenting on the work’s significance within the body of the project kills the suspension of disbelief and explicitly discredits our attempt at creating a complete universe ex nihilo.
refresh: pdf.
maybe some text can accompany the missive interpretations, so that there is a story like ‘i was laying some pipe when the missive came through…’ blockquote of missive and image ‘…i imagined some fucked up things, such as an atat riot on 110th.’ i don’t know what you are going to do w/ the images such as ‘ivy’ or ‘riot on jwdobbs’, but i think they might benefit from this as well?
yes, but it isn’t necessary. i was hoping for a way to make 3 pages of thin text look less prominent. maybe you will contrive a way to segue from the texts to your sequences. the purpose of the commentary would be for the newspaperman to describe how he was working, concerning each sample and the crisis as a whole. the prologue might do a good enough job as it is? maybe all the missives are condensed and treated as part of the prologue? then we have the splash page (???), followed by the main feature (your sequences).
